you to pay for a union strike in new york, or we will get you fired when i was writing editorials against the strike in new york. so this is the -- it is that kind of coercion, which is coming to an end, everywhere. you heard it right here. the folks in michigan said, we looked at indiana, they are gettingions, businesses are coming in there. that's why we did it. they look south, where are the foreign companies coming? spartanburg, south carolina, bmwar plants, mercedes, tuscaloosa. volkswagen volkswagen, chattanooga, nissan plant. when foreign folks come into the country, they say, we don't want to deal with that stuff. let's go where we have good labor relations in the united states of america -- the wages are reasonable. >> greta: are the big companies, though, are they the one who is are union busting? if they are only going to go to those states and put some governors up against the wall, in order to compete -- >> sure. they are going to get the best deal. here's where i agree with the union guys. nafta, gatt, they are magna carta for transcontinental corporations to shut do